You're hardly an honest broker on this discussion, given your absolutely disgraceful performance with the thuggish posturing with BuilderBot, RightasRain, WrongAsUsual.
The concept keeps failing you over and over again -- but let's try again. Copyright is inherent. You don't have to "express your intentions" to claim them and have them guaranteed.
This idea that the inherency of copyright is somehow diminished because you can't prove you're the creator is merely another gambit out of the same socialist playbook designed to decouple copyright and commerce, and insist on some registrational approach to copyright than inherency.
If someone claims a copyright and someone else believes it to be false and believes they were the first and the other has copied (see, oh, Mitch Kapor's lawsuits, for example, with software) then...you can go to court. But this isn't the norm. The norm is, most people are the authors of what they say are the authors, and they have inherent copyright.
By introducing the sheer idiocy and outright criminality of Creative Commons, you once again bang away at inherency and try to diminish and break it. Making "the addition of a CC card" as some sort of ad on that people "need" to establish their "intent" not only undermines inherency, it sets up a fake registrational regime implying that some body -- "the Commons" -- or is it the Comintern?! -- has validated you. But no body needs to validate you.
All of these gambits are about one thing: nihilism, and the destruction of private property out of a deep-seated technocommunist ideology. Of course, this ideology has cult-like status in and around OpenSim and Second Life.
No, no one in SL decided their freebies could also go to other grids, where they are ripped out of a social context that perhaps those creators wanted them kept in. They're not freebies to help some other sandbox or some other enterprise in another world far from the store of the freebie maker where he doesn't even show up in search. So, no, get your paws off it.
There was already a JIRA or two on this issue when I objected to the plans for interoperability, saying that the AWG hadn't wired down copyright first, which I thought they should do (and I reject all the analog hole defeatism as so much ideological posturing by one faction). And Saijani Kuhn postured further by creating a JIRA to add another flag on every SL object that would say something like "good to go to other grids". And opensouce fanatics and the Lindens were lukewarm to hostile about this idea which in fact would have been a boon for some. Shows you their true nature.
You do not need "a license between maker and user". This is a wedge that is ultimately only about one thing: destroying the concept of private property and collectivizing it to "the Commons". The default is that no, you don't get to grab it and take it to another grid -- full stop. And eventually creators will get a system whereby they will be able to have their rights acknowledged and their items distributed, but that will come when we can get the dysfunctionals off the interop project and have grownups who will attend to the agreements that will have to be signed between grids before items are transferred.
RightAsRain, if OpenSim is so fabulous, *go there*. Get people to make new stuff for free, since that's your belief system. Stop leaching and poaching off those who make content, sell it, and value it.
You're hardly an honest
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 09:13 — Prokofy Neva (not verified)You're hardly an honest broker on this discussion, given your absolutely disgraceful performance with the thuggish posturing with BuilderBot, RightasRain, WrongAsUsual.
The concept keeps failing you over and over again -- but let's try again. Copyright is inherent. You don't have to "express your intentions" to claim them and have them guaranteed.
This idea that the inherency of copyright is somehow diminished because you can't prove you're the creator is merely another gambit out of the same socialist playbook designed to decouple copyright and commerce, and insist on some registrational approach to copyright than inherency.
If someone claims a copyright and someone else believes it to be false and believes they were the first and the other has copied (see, oh, Mitch Kapor's lawsuits, for example, with software) then...you can go to court. But this isn't the norm. The norm is, most people are the authors of what they say are the authors, and they have inherent copyright.
By introducing the sheer idiocy and outright criminality of Creative Commons, you once again bang away at inherency and try to diminish and break it. Making "the addition of a CC card" as some sort of ad on that people "need" to establish their "intent" not only undermines inherency, it sets up a fake registrational regime implying that some body -- "the Commons" -- or is it the Comintern?! -- has validated you. But no body needs to validate you.
All of these gambits are about one thing: nihilism, and the destruction of private property out of a deep-seated technocommunist ideology. Of course, this ideology has cult-like status in and around OpenSim and Second Life.
No, no one in SL decided their freebies could also go to other grids, where they are ripped out of a social context that perhaps those creators wanted them kept in. They're not freebies to help some other sandbox or some other enterprise in another world far from the store of the freebie maker where he doesn't even show up in search. So, no, get your paws off it.
There was already a JIRA or two on this issue when I objected to the plans for interoperability, saying that the AWG hadn't wired down copyright first, which I thought they should do (and I reject all the analog hole defeatism as so much ideological posturing by one faction). And Saijani Kuhn postured further by creating a JIRA to add another flag on every SL object that would say something like "good to go to other grids". And opensouce fanatics and the Lindens were lukewarm to hostile about this idea which in fact would have been a boon for some. Shows you their true nature.
You do not need "a license between maker and user". This is a wedge that is ultimately only about one thing: destroying the concept of private property and collectivizing it to "the Commons". The default is that no, you don't get to grab it and take it to another grid -- full stop. And eventually creators will get a system whereby they will be able to have their rights acknowledged and their items distributed, but that will come when we can get the dysfunctionals off the interop project and have grownups who will attend to the agreements that will have to be signed between grids before items are transferred.
RightAsRain, if OpenSim is so fabulous, *go there*. Get people to make new stuff for free, since that's your belief system. Stop leaching and poaching off those who make content, sell it, and value it.